So what is the deal with the "free" chests? - Guild Wars Forums

Midnight Harmony · May 30, 2007, 09:32 PM // 21:32

I'm a little bit confused about the free chests in Nightfall. Some people have told me if you open them , then try again before a month has passed, they will take another month, and some have told me it doesn't matter if you try to open them multiple times within the one month timeframe. Personally, I remember clicking on them multiple times and they still reset.

Until now. It's been over a month and nothing, and I'm wondering if I have been resetting it. Can anyone shed some light on this for me, because I could really do with the liquid assets over the weekend.

(Before you ask, the search function is very slow for me, so appologies if this has been asked recently)

Skuld · May 30, 2007, 09:34 PM // 21:34

They reset every X.

X seems to follow no pattern whatsoever. Come up with a theory, and at least 1 person will be able to disprove it.

Laharl the Angel · May 30, 2007, 09:54 PM // 21:54

x = ¿mission completed? ¿quest completed?

Has anyone looked into either of those possibilities.

Mournblade · May 31, 2007, 01:08 AM // 01:08

Missions/Quests don't influence the free chests. =p

Skuld's got the right of it. There hasn't been a theory yet that everybody can agree too. There always seems to be one person who claims they have a different experience...

KamikazeChicken · May 31, 2007, 01:38 AM // 01:38

My monk has had the chests reset.... either once or never. I'm pretty sure they've never reset for that character. >.> It's not something any knows for sure or can help you with.

**cosyfiep** · May 31, 2007, 02:30 AM // 02:30

I have a bunch of characters----one has been able to open the chests multiple times, another only once.....I tried the 'wait 1 month' and was able to open all but one chest with that toon....so nope, still no idea what the x is.....

Traveller · May 31, 2007, 07:58 AM // 07:58

These seem to be the popular theories:

1) The chests reset in 30 days plus one day for each time that character has opened the chests. This theory works for some people, or rather for some characters. My few characters follow this pattern.

1a) But then again, some characters could open the chests once and never again after that. This is a mystery no one has been able to solve.

2) The drop quality of chests gets worse for every time that character has opened the chests. Also, for one chest opening session, drops get worse the more chests you have opened. So start from the Torment ones is recommended.

3) If you check to see if a chest has refilled during a month it reloads, the counter is reset and that character has to wait another month from the checking day. This is being tested, I'll know the results 18th June.

strcpy · May 31, 2007, 08:13 AM // 08:13

The only thing we know for sure is that chest drops degrade the more you open and that the recharge is character based. Other than that - who knows?

Personally I think there are either several different methods and Anet randomly assigns them or there is some element of "random" in the recharge rate. I have ten characters, for every theory that is "proven" I pretty much have one that doesn't follow it, but then I also have some that follow those patterns. There is nothing stopping Anet from having several different recharge algorithms and that would *really* stymie anyone looking for one single algorithm.

Ah well, open the highest level you can first as that is what Anet has told us to do to maximize the drops. Other than that - add your theory to the mix

kiss of the knight · May 31, 2007, 08:34 AM // 08:34

I have 11 characters and I have found that if I wait 2 months between resets, then they reset for all my characters and I dont have to go out and "test" which chars can actually open the damned things. The drops do not seem to depend on how often you have opened the chests, they just get worse after the first time ~ my mesmer ever gets purples and low amounts of gold (has done since she finished her first run) But why complain about that? It's "free" right? except in torment, there should be no dropping of the prize IMO, since it is a hard battle to get there in the first place.

billypowergamer · May 31, 2007, 04:14 PM // 16:14

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Originally Posted by kiss of the knight

except in torment, there should be no dropping of the prize IMO, since it is a hard battle to get there in the first place.

All the chests are easily runnable, I never have issues getting to them....

GodofAcid · May 31, 2007, 04:29 PM // 16:29

I remember a few months back, it was announced that the chests had been reset. I don't know if I saw that on wiki or elsewhere, but that proves that missions/whatever other rumors have no bearing on chests being reset. They're either on a certain pattern or they're being manually reset, but either way anet is controlling when this happens, not anything we do in game.

Nocturne V · May 31, 2007, 11:20 PM // 23:20

what are these free chests where do you get them at?

Skuld · May 31, 2007, 11:36 PM // 23:36

See [wiki]Treasure[/wiki].

Sophitia Leafblade · Jun 01, 2007, 10:21 AM // 10:21

I had numerious characters open numerious chests at different times, and it took more than 4 months before they reset, but when they did reset they allowed me to open all Chests again with any char even ones i had opened just a month before. I also noted that i had only opened some of the desolation Chests once (with 1 char) and when i came to open them a second time with a different char they began to yeild only purples. Not that im complaining, all free stuff is good

. But it suggests the reduction of drops isnt linked to how many times uve opened a particular Chest (with 1 char or with numerious) so perhaps it links with how many u have opened Account wise within in a certain amount of time.

Mournblade · Jun 01, 2007, 02:51 PM // 14:51

Yes, thats why Gaile suggested opening the high-end chests first. It's per character though.

Evilsod · Jun 01, 2007, 03:03 PM // 15:03

The best theory i've heard is the chests reset in 30 days from when you last tried to open them. So if you went nuts and kept checkin a chest every so often you'd never get a reset for that character. Might explain why my main hasn't been able to open them for months. That theory did have some proof behind it too.

The chests definatly get worse everytime though, i'm about to try it now on my Warrior and i'm expecting nothing but Purples.

TedTheDead · Jun 01, 2007, 03:30 PM // 15:30

Ive done some tests on the 30 days since you last touched idea, I belive it is correct.

With my main character I consistently (and purposfully) touched a chest every few days, and I have not had a "reset" with him in many many months now (over 5 I belive).

I have with another character waited, in cycles, more than 30 days between touching them and have gotten a reset without exception like clockwork. As a note with this character, who has had the most "Resets" so far, I am getting almost all purple now.

With another character, I recorded when I got a reset, waited 15 days, touched a chest and got nothing, waited another 15 days, got nothing, waited 35 days, got a reset, and began mirroring the cycle of the above character and have identical results.

As my final test I am, with my main character, going to attempt to get a reset. It has been 2 weeks since I last purposfully touched off any treasure anywhere. If in another 2 weeks (plus a few days for good measure, probably 35 days or so) I am able to get treasure with my main for the first time in months after purposfully touching them every few days, I will be a 100% believer that it simply is a matter of leaving them alone for 30+ days per character and you get a reset, with degrading drops over time.

Former Ruling · Jun 02, 2007, 05:34 PM // 17:34

My ranger was finally able to open them after waiting like 4 Months.

May 30, 2007, 09:32 PM // 21:32	#1
Midnight Harmony Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: South East England Guild: Everlasting Sacred Path [ESP] Profession: E/Me	So what is the deal with the "free" chests? I'm a little bit confused about the free chests in Nightfall. Some people have told me if you open them , then try again before a month has passed, they will take another month, and some have told me it doesn't matter if you try to open them multiple times within the one month timeframe. Personally, I remember clicking on them multiple times and they still reset. Until now. It's been over a month and nothing, and I'm wondering if I have been resetting it. Can anyone shed some light on this for me, because I could really do with the liquid assets over the weekend. (Before you ask, the search function is very slow for me, so appologies if this has been asked recently)

May 31, 2007, 08:34 AM // 08:34	#9
kiss of the knight Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tyria / Cantha / Elona and the Far Shiverpeaks Guild: NuDE Profession: N/	"free chests" I have 11 characters and I have found that if I wait 2 months between resets, then they reset for all my characters and I dont have to go out and "test" which chars can actually open the damned things. The drops do not seem to depend on how often you have opened the chests, they just get worse after the first time ~ my mesmer ever gets purples and low amounts of gold (has done since she finished her first run) But why complain about that? It's "free" right? except in torment, there should be no dropping of the prize IMO, since it is a hard battle to get there in the first place.

May 30, 2007, 09:34 PM // 21:34	#2
Skuld Furnace Stoker Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr] Profession: A/	They reset every X. X seems to follow no pattern whatsoever. Come up with a theory, and at least 1 person will be able to disprove it.

May 30, 2007, 09:54 PM // 21:54	#3
Laharl the Angel Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Feb 2007 Guild: Ancient Warlords of Tyria Profession: A/Me	x = ¿mission completed? ¿quest completed? Has anyone looked into either of those possibilities.

May 31, 2007, 01:08 AM // 01:08	#4
Mournblade Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Guild: Dawn Treaders [DAWN] Profession: W/Mo	Missions/Quests don't influence the free chests. =p Skuld's got the right of it. There hasn't been a theory yet that everybody can agree too. There always seems to be one person who claims they have a different experience...

May 31, 2007, 01:38 AM // 01:38	#5
KamikazeChicken Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Mo/	My monk has had the chests reset.... either once or never. I'm pretty sure they've never reset for that character. >.> It's not something any knows for sure or can help you with.

May 31, 2007, 02:30 AM // 02:30	#6
cosyfiep are we there yet? Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: in a land far far away Guild: guild? I am supposed to have a guild? Profession: Rt/	I have a bunch of characters----one has been able to open the chests multiple times, another only once.....I tried the 'wait 1 month' and was able to open all but one chest with that toon....so nope, still no idea what the x is.....

May 31, 2007, 07:58 AM // 07:58	#7
Traveller Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Finland Guild: League of Extraordinary Explorers [LOST] (my one man guild) Profession: Me/	These seem to be the popular theories: 1) The chests reset in 30 days plus one day for each time that character has opened the chests. This theory works for some people, or rather for some characters. My few characters follow this pattern. 1a) But then again, some characters could open the chests once and never again after that. This is a mystery no one has been able to solve. 2) The drop quality of chests gets worse for every time that character has opened the chests. Also, for one chest opening session, drops get worse the more chests you have opened. So start from the Torment ones is recommended. 3) If you check to see if a chest has refilled during a month it reloads, the counter is reset and that character has to wait another month from the checking day. This is being tested, I'll know the results 18th June.

May 31, 2007, 08:13 AM // 08:13	#8
strcpy Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: One of Many [ONE]	The only thing we know for sure is that chest drops degrade the more you open and that the recharge is character based. Other than that - who knows? Personally I think there are either several different methods and Anet randomly assigns them or there is some element of "random" in the recharge rate. I have ten characters, for every theory that is "proven" I pretty much have one that doesn't follow it, but then I also have some that follow those patterns. There is nothing stopping Anet from having several different recharge algorithms and that would really stymie anyone looking for one single algorithm. Ah well, open the highest level you can first as that is what Anet has told us to do to maximize the drops. Other than that - add your theory to the mix

May 31, 2007, 04:29 PM // 16:29	#11
GodofAcid Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Massachusetts, USA Profession: E/	I remember a few months back, it was announced that the chests had been reset. I don't know if I saw that on wiki or elsewhere, but that proves that missions/whatever other rumors have no bearing on chests being reset. They're either on a certain pattern or they're being manually reset, but either way anet is controlling when this happens, not anything we do in game.

May 31, 2007, 11:20 PM // 23:20	#12
Nocturne V Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2007 Profession: R/D	what are these free chests where do you get them at?

May 31, 2007, 11:36 PM // 23:36	#13
Skuld Furnace Stoker Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr] Profession: A/	See [wiki]Treasure[/wiki].

Jun 01, 2007, 10:21 AM // 10:21	#14
Sophitia Leafblade Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: Dragon Slayer Guild [DSG] Profession: R/	I had numerious characters open numerious chests at different times, and it took more than 4 months before they reset, but when they did reset they allowed me to open all Chests again with any char even ones i had opened just a month before. I also noted that i had only opened some of the desolation Chests once (with 1 char) and when i came to open them a second time with a different char they began to yeild only purples. Not that im complaining, all free stuff is good . But it suggests the reduction of drops isnt linked to how many times uve opened a particular Chest (with 1 char or with numerious) so perhaps it links with how many u have opened Account wise within in a certain amount of time.

Jun 01, 2007, 02:51 PM // 14:51	#15
Mournblade Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Guild: Dawn Treaders [DAWN] Profession: W/Mo	Yes, thats why Gaile suggested opening the high-end chests first. It's per character though.

Jun 01, 2007, 03:03 PM // 15:03	#16
Evilsod Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: England Guild: Lievs Death Squad [LDS]	The best theory i've heard is the chests reset in 30 days from when you last tried to open them. So if you went nuts and kept checkin a chest every so often you'd never get a reset for that character. Might explain why my main hasn't been able to open them for months. That theory did have some proof behind it too. The chests definatly get worse everytime though, i'm about to try it now on my Warrior and i'm expecting nothing but Purples.

Jun 01, 2007, 03:30 PM // 15:30	#17
TedTheDead Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2007 Guild: Sons of Metal Profession: N/	Ive done some tests on the 30 days since you last touched idea, I belive it is correct. With my main character I consistently (and purposfully) touched a chest every few days, and I have not had a "reset" with him in many many months now (over 5 I belive). I have with another character waited, in cycles, more than 30 days between touching them and have gotten a reset without exception like clockwork. As a note with this character, who has had the most "Resets" so far, I am getting almost all purple now. With another character, I recorded when I got a reset, waited 15 days, touched a chest and got nothing, waited another 15 days, got nothing, waited 35 days, got a reset, and began mirroring the cycle of the above character and have identical results. As my final test I am, with my main character, going to attempt to get a reset. It has been 2 weeks since I last purposfully touched off any treasure anywhere. If in another 2 weeks (plus a few days for good measure, probably 35 days or so) I am able to get treasure with my main for the first time in months after purposfully touching them every few days, I will be a 100% believer that it simply is a matter of leaving them alone for 30+ days per character and you get a reset, with degrading drops over time.

Jun 02, 2007, 05:34 PM // 17:34	#18
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	My ranger was finally able to open them after waiting like 4 Months.